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SP84 The Afghan Whigs

Sister Brother b/w Hey Cuz 7"

Sub Pop SP84, released 1990

Retarded EP - Sub Pop SP4/115 12"/CD (Germany)

The first 2000 copies were on red vinyl. At one point in collecting past, this was the desirable version to have. Over the years, it became clear that the red version was actually very easy to come by. The black version was released at this point as well. Several other colors have shown up since then, which were most likely pressed slightly later. These colors are much tougher finds. The purple marble one will show up fairly often. It's the green, pink marble, and clear pink ones that are really difficult. The green one is a clear green with slight marbling (see picture). The pink marble one is a solid hot pink marble. The clear pink one is the rarest. The collector community is mostly satiated with this one, though, so you can now get it for a much more moderate price than before.

The 12" was an early Sub Pop Europe pressing, released as the "Retarded" EP. It contained the song "Retarded" from the Up in It LP, the two tracks from the U.S. 7", and "Turning in Two," which never appeared elsewhere (but is excellent). The EP also exists on CD, which is actually much harder to find.

Version Value ($) Scarcity Price Trending
SP84 Red (2000) 6-10 1 Stable
SP84 Black 3-5 1 Stable
SP84 Purple Marble 15-25 6 Stable
SP84 Pink Marble 20-30 7 Down
SP84 Green Marble 20-30 7 Down
SP84 Clear Pink 30-40 8 Down
SP4/115 Black 8-12 1 Stable
Attached Insert
Test Pressing
Clear Pink
Pink Marble
Pink/Purple Marble Mix Variant
SP4/115
Sleeve Paper foldover w/ insert attached
Test Pressing Black vinyl, small hole, plain white labels
Recent Clear Pink Sales Data:

Year Sold Quantity Median Price ($) Platform
2018-19 0 N/A N/A
2017 2 47 Discogs, eBay
Recent Pink Marble Sales Data:

Year Sold Quantity Median Price ($) Platform
2019 1 30 eBay
2018 1 14 Discogs
2017 3 30 Discogs, eBay
Recent Green Marble Sales Data:

Year Sold Quantity Median Price ($) Platform
2019 0 N/A N/A
2018 1 20 Discogs
2017 3 28 Discogs, eBay
Recent Purple Marble Sales Data:

Year Sold Quantity Median Price ($) Platform
2019 1 24 Discogs
2018 0 N/A N/A
2017 2 20 Discogs, eBay

This page was last updated on October 8, 2019.

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Scarcity Score Definition
10 Near impossible: Fewer than 50 copies or publicly sold every few years
8-9 Very rare: 50-199 copies or publicly sold 1-2 times per year
6-7 Rare: 200-499 copies or publicly sold a few times a year
4-5 Medium: 500-999 copies or publicly sold ~10 times a year
1-3 Common: 1000+ copies, readily available, or publicly sold 20+ times a year

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